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A shoddy piece of work

Dear Friends,

In post # 111, Feroz Karmally wrote:

There is a difference between conditioning and confusion. Conditioning of the mind and body is an exercise that allows it to be more fit and perform better. Confusion is to mix up singularity, duality and plurality, to quote some examples like night and day, yes and no and somehow conclude that we manufactured ourselves, that an explosion in a giant printing factory in the skies resulted in the formation of the universe with its precise laws and the designed and functional human being.
 
Confusion is the creation of our own minds, and we have to work very hard to condition ourselves to be confused. The natural, God-given desire is to work towards peace, and understanding and goal seeking, not confusion based on our own opinions projected as the truth (when it is not), e.g., when [Rashid Mughal] says, "Once this insight is gained, one is awakened. This is enlightenment. This awakening is called enlightenment." I would rephrase this as, "Once this confusion is gained, one drifts into a coma, the awakening from which is called chaos."

Mr Karmally is kidding himself with his usually twisted logic. His stubborn mind is so conditioned by the God gene that he seriously believes, to use in his very own words, that "we have to work very hard to condition ourselves to be confused. The natural, God-given desire is to work towards peace, and understanding and goal seeking, not confusion based on our own opinions. . . ." 

The peace that he is alluding to has eluded the human race since the beginning of time.


In response to my statement -- "Once this insight is gained, one is awakened. This is enlightenment. This awakening is called enlightenment." -- he writes to say that he would rephrase it thus: "Once this confusion is gained, one drifts into a coma, the awakening from which is called chaos."

He's got to be kidding, as he is wont to say.

His reference to "an
explosion in a giant printing factory in the skies resulted in the formation of the universe" comes from his vindictive intention of hitting at me personally because of my association with writing and publishing. If this is not unnecessary provocation and utter stupidity, I don't know what is.

What a shoddy piece of work he is -- given his God-given desire to work towards peace and understanding

The truth is that the man does not know the meaning of the word conditioning as I have been using it, yet there are any number of people who know better.

Two recent and very relevant examples may, perhaps, shed some light on the kind of philosophy that even I am not aware of, yet I appear to be saying something so profound as to invoke the names of Mu'tazilah and Sufism of the highest order.

1.  Rashid Saheb,
 
"To say that [God] is part and parcel of His creation is like saying we are God"
 
The above statement is in conformity with the great Sufi traditions. Persian mystic Mansur al-Hallaj did not claim to be God like Pharaoh did when he said Anul Haq. He was executed for heresy by Abbasi Caliph Al-Muqtadir because people worship form and not content. 
 
Regards
(Name Withheld By Request)

2. Dr Fazlur Rahman wrote:

In brief, may I say that Rashid Mughal is trying to express theory of Mu'tazilites in 21st century?

Dr Fazlur Rahman
 

I sincerely hope this will help to provide some food for thought to nourish the brain and conditioned self of our mutual friend.

Rashid Mughal

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