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Family of the Heart - DIALOGUE & DISCUSSIONS 

This is my response to Mr. Dale (post 63) and Dr. Jamil’s (post 54):  

It took about 50 posts worth mudslinging, irrelevant rambling, name calling and accusations of one kind or another before the discussion got on the right track. I know there are plumbers, electricians and garbage collectors unions where non-union people are not allowed to enter the trade. But I did not know that there was physicist’s union as well that frowns upon a physician treading on the physicist’s turf  … … …   just kidding, of course J

Now the interesting part – the real science - Physics: 

I am afraid I cannot agree with the material presented in the article by Michelson H. Morley, submitted by Dr. Jamil (post 54). It does not look like that the author has any idea of today’s physics or Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. I am not familiar with this author, but when I read the name casually for the first time, I thought of Michelson-Morley’s famous experiment which was performed during the last decade of 19th century. 

Contrary to what the author of this article thinks, Einstein did not put a cap on the speed of light, that is what he and others had observed. It was shown repeatedly that an additional velocity vector could not be added to whatever speed they measured leading them to believe that the measured speed is absolute. 

Regarding the mass of the photon – yes, that has been the source of a big headache for the physicists for a very long time. The duality of light, being a wave and a particle has not been easy to reconcile with.  

The Gamma factor, about which (M H Morley) has raised question and objection, is not Einstein’s invention, Lorentz showed that before him. The special Theory of Relativity used it as a given entity. Furthermore, the real confusion the author has is about the photon mass, rest or relativistic. In fact, as I have already said else where, the rest mass of photon is just a term because the photon does not exist at rest. It is always on the go at the speed of light in the given medium. So the mass that we consider is the relativistic mass. People have reported the derived values of photon’s rest mass (of the order of 10^-50 gm), but in practice one does not have to bother about it, hence the Lorentz equations need not apply making the Gamma factor redundant. All this special consideration is allowed for photon because of the very nature of it.  

Mr. Dale wrote:  

1)     a photon has a rest mass of zero.
2) a photon carries non-zero energy.
3) because (even in Newtonian physics) this leads to a division by zero in calculating the velocity, the photon can only travel at the speed of light (an "infinite" velocity because time stops at that speed).
4) a photon carries inertia and is affected by gravity. Its inertial mass is non-zero, equivalent to its energy (as per e=mc^2, or if you prefer, m=e/c^2, which shows how incredibly small the inertial mass of a photon is). 

Actually, the photon does appear to have some mass at rest, but as I have described above, it has no practical important, we are only concerned with relativistic mass. Since item (2) talks about energy, there has to be a mass to have energy. The item (4) further supports what I have stated, the inertia is associated with mass. Regarding the effect of gravity on photon; Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity tells as that it gets deflected due to curved space. While the Newtonian mechanics talks about the force of gravity, the General Theory of Relativity talks about the influence of curved space due to a large mass.  

I agree with Mr. Dale’s response in general except I have offered a few additional considerations. 

I am sorry to say, in my opinion, it will not do a great deal of good to Dr. Jamil to follow the material such as presented in Morley’s article that he has forwarded to us in post 54.   

Regards, 

Javed I. Chaudry 

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