Quranic Science

Family of the Heart - DIALOGUE & DISCUSSIONS 

Dear Rashid
 
I do not see any truth in your post.  Frankly, I have not seen any truth in any of your posts because there is none.  Why don't you point out some truths in your post?
>you are never going to know the truth that sets people like myself free from all kinds of dogma.<
What kind of truth? That everyone else is wrong and you are right, that there are no new truths to be found, that all people are conditioned  .. that is not truth, it is a lot of baggage to carry around.
 
Let us look at what you have written,
>You forget that everyone reserves the right to laugh or to refuse to accept nonsense when it is passed as the ultimate truth. <
 
But even before reading it? And it is not good to laugh at other people or consider their beliefs nonsense.  It is called civility, and having good manners.
 
>You have to learn what truth really means, because I don't think you can dish out secondhand theories as the panacea for a perfect life on this planet nor in the heareafter. <
 
How do you know they are second hand? How do you know who discovered them? You love to Ass-u-me.
 
You can feel sorry for me all you want, that does not change the merit of the argument that I present. I do not see you discuss the merit - perhaps that is out of the league of those who do not have merit in their own argument.
 
>You have the audacity to post something on a public forum and then want to censor who can, should, or should not read it. That exposes your vanity.<
 
You can read all you want, but why don't you get it once and for all, you and I are not going to agree on anything. You do not have to reply to every post of mine and engage me in a circular conversation without really saying anything of merit.
 
>There's nothing new under the sun my friend. Consequently, there are no new ideas supported by truths, as you are suggesting; only new ways of looking at the same old same old same old. Do you understand?<
 
Those who don't think there is anything new and buried in the past without hope and will never find the new truths because they have a defeatist mindset that there cannot be any new truths (except what they believe in to be the truths, what fits their bias and close mindedness)
 
>In  your second last paragraph you say: "Sometimes the truth takes several generations to be appreciated.  But it's [sic] initial purpose is to expose those who really are not looking for the truth." Who told you that?<
 
If you took one look at history (e.g. Galileo) you would not be asking this question.
 
>mishmash theories about the Koran and the Miracle of 19 which you've purveyed to us in some of the longest submissions which were quite boring to read.<
 
To you straight forward mathematical facts, like 2+2=4 appear to be mishmash theories. You need to be able to differentiate between fact and 'mish mash theories'.  Just because you call something a 'mish mash theory' does not make it so - only reflects on you, that you do not have the ability to distinguish facts from fiction and fantasy. One cannot put everything in a melting pot and start labeling and categorizing it at will what fits with one's bias.
 
>Regarding your anticipated response to your much advertised revelation of truth in a forthcoming post, it might surprise you that words like mumbo-jumbo and pseudo-science might be hurled at you by people other than myself.<
 
I did not think it was much advertised .. perhaps you are advertising it all over the place.
 
As long as they give a decent reason as to why it may be mumbo jumbo, I will look at it carefully. 
If they just throw words around to show that they know how to use words, that will speak for itself.
It is all about the merit of the argument, but then I am talking to the wrong person about that.
 
I am convinced you are engaging in this because you have nothing really to offer as a learning experience - and I say that because you have not offered anything of value so far in the past.
 
Feroz

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