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Family of the Heart - DIALOGUE & DISCUSSIONS 

Dear Javed

 

Here are some of my comments on some of your comments.

 

“disagreements or having an ideology different from others is not only very welcome here but extremely desirable”

 

I am pleased to hear it. Since this is the case, feel free to call me Peter.

 

“The recent connotation attached with word ‘fundamentalism’ is that of political nature as a means to a specific end, so let’s be careful about the pitfalls.”

 

Defining terms can be a useful exercise, but I’m not sure that we need to get too concerned about semantics here. The point I wanted to make was that those who have a literal interpretation of Islam set off more bombs than those who have a literal interpretation of Christianity.

 

Many beliefs which are considered extreme in the so-called Christian world are mainstream in Islam. The most obvious point here is that most citizens of western countries simply no longer believe, and among those who profess belief, very few pray or attend church. And among the minority who do, only a small number believe in the divinity or inerrancy of the Bible. Some Christians are even happy to doubt that Christ actually existed!

 

“You are wondering if we are socialists. Some of us may be, but the group consists of a people with a wide variety of beliefs from political and religious points of view including those who consider themselves atheist and some agnostics.”

 

Perhaps. But if that is so, I wonder, for example, if there are any capitalists. The reason I ask is that a capitalist would probably agree with much of what I wrote about politics and economics, yet I had the impression that no one did. Perhaps they are the sleeping majority, who never post any comments.

 

“You say that you do not believe in the existence of the Western imperialism. It seems that either you understand some thing different from the term imperialism or you are simply not aware of its existence.

I have tried to explain this point in my last post, I hope, it may have been of some help.”

 

Regarding your first point, there is another possibility: that my understanding of the term is the same as yours, but I simply do not agree that it exists...and of course, I just could be right! In fact, your last posting has made clear what you, at least, mean by it. However, I simply do not agree that it exists…at least, not in any pervasive way. However, there are of course economic conditions that some people would call imperialism, especially if they were unrepentant socialists, but I would not agree with them.

 

I will send a longer posting some time in the weekend, explaining some of my ideas in more detail, because I know this has been rather skeletal and general.

 

Regards

 

Peter Joyce 

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