To Farzana and Syed H. Haider
sahib!
نا سمجھ ھے تو نہ اس یار سے باتیں کیجے
اس سے اچھا ھے کہ دیوار سے باتیں کیجے
As I was reading through the
post #90 from Syed H. Haider....I wrote this
verse (sher) instantly, so thanks for this
motivation!
Let me try again before I head to the (دیوار)WALL.
Your quote.."Bringing
atrocities committed by other communities to
justify or water down similar acts by
followers of our religion is neither in line
with this discussion (Muslim jurisprudence)
not a good argument that if we are bad then
they are even worse."
Let me ask you if you really have read
Farzana's posts and Tariq's Book?..
Don't you know that either of them are trying
hard to
compare any good times of past and
present of Islam with
today's most
modern societies and their culture and
or their jurisprudence?
Let us not shy away from the fact that most of
us have only migrated to these countries
because of their wealth, free style
,liberalism etc. Exceptions are , those who
were and are persecuted in their countries
(minorities like Ahmadis).
Here's a quote from "Chasing a Mirage..."
"I have not
found a single period that I could in all
honesty I would trade for my 21st
century existence as a Muslim living in a
secular democratic society”.
Now Mr.Shahab tell me if I am talking to wall?
All what Tariq and Farzana are trying to do
is to urge to reform Islam according to
Western Standards and that is why I have to
Quote the Number of inmates within the
"greatest liberal country" of all times.
I also have to
quote a systemic increase in number of these
prisoners as more "reforms" based on
liberalism and socialism are introduced , thus
chellenging the "poorly picked foundation" by
Tariq for his Book.
Are you denouncing Quran or God by writing
"It
is the God's word in Quran which is causing
this controversy."? I understand your
dismay towards solving such issues as dismayed
Tariq or Farzana might also be, but in the
name of Renovation you can't remove the
foundation of a pillar or you are eracting a
new building ( religion).
خشت اول چوں نہد معمار کج
تا ثریا می رود دیوار کج
As about, Mujtahid ,you tell me if I
start deliberations about the permisiblity of
an Islamic law, would you follow me? Unless I
am appointed by all Muslims. Now is their any
possiblilty that all Muslims ever will unite
on such a single instance while there are 73
sects of Islam? Can there be a United Shria
goverment world wide? Will God ever come to
Earth literally to introduce a Dude who He
would have granted all the rights to reform
Islam according to " Farzana's quote...
“the
freedom to enact laws according to the needs
of changing societies”?!!!
So be patient
and wait for "Imam Mahdi" and or "Re-arrival"
of Jesus as at least 72 sects are still
waiting !
Or there is another way.....Let us not take
the literal meaning of any verse of Quran and
let us
***Do a Zionist sponsored visit to Israel.
***Let us shake hand with Pope
Benedict to encourage his views towards a
"terror religion of Islam".
*** Let us leave the
thieves and robbers do their business in
peace.etc.........
Farzana writes""Again,
I am not suggesting that modern laws are
perfect. Sure enough there are many social
ills that are accepted by societies and by all
means they should be obliterated through
tougher legal measures. But as long as we have
the option to debate and evaluate laws in
Parliament""
Are you kidding .....this is your country
(Pakistan) where your national ID and passport
is not given to you unless you call names to
Ahmdiayya ! Ofcourse a parliament has passed
this Law. " and read this cut and paste
NEWS..in 2008....
"The
Police Station Chenab Nagar - a place also
known as Rabwah - in district Jhang of the
Punjab province, in a outlandish move, lodged
a First Information Report (FIR) against
thousands of members of Ahmadiyya community
residing in the town under Section 285, 298C,
and 337H2 of Pakistan Penal Code. The police
booked the whole town on religious grounds.
There are thousands of
words I can write about the social stigmas of
Western or Eastern societies but nothing is
going to solve our "dual nationality" approach
towards a "backward" Islam.
And even if some one
claims to be appointed by GOD comes to us ,
there are no signs from History that we could
follow to accept Him as Savior.
یوں تو سید بھی ہو مرزا بھی ہو افغان بھی ھو
تم سبھی کچھ ھو بتاؤ تو مسلمان بھی ھو
Just like
Allama Iqbal who questioned every one but his
own Ahmadi Father.
Sincerely,
Rafi Raza
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