Family of the Heart - DIALOGUE & DISCUSSIONS 

 #12: Rashid Mughal,

While it is true that so called Muslim fundamentalism have caused havoc and Muslims should take responsibility for their own problems, do you think it is the only reason why Muslim find themselves in this mess? Do not international politics and economic slavery and West’s support of draconian dictatorships have to do anything with the current state of affairs? Who funded the madrassas in the first place?

The issue of separation of religion and state is not an easy one. I believe it is possible to come up with a solution which can satisfy the Muslim religious thought as well as liberal and secular thought. However, this is a separate topic and should be reserved for a separate forum, maybe the next one, on FOH.

 

#11: Akbar Hussain,

 No doubt pinning hopes on Obama because he was originally born in a third world country and may have Muslim lineage is simple-mindedness and naivety at the least and psychological delusion at the worst, however, his promise of change include peaceful engagement with enemies (like Iran) in a meaningful dialogue. Moreover, his posture that he wants to rise above traditional approaches to solve the problems, have given rise to hopes that he may search for the peaceful solutions to the present conflicts.  I wonder if such hopes are realistic or even those are delusional considering that he may not be able to change the fundamental course of American foreign policy part of which is to ensure hegemonic presence in the oil rich strip of the central Asia.

You have correctly stated that fundamentalism did not start with 9/11. But you forgot to mention that how it really intensified by American backing of Taliban against Russians. Fundamentalist streaks within Muslims have been there right from the beginning, from Kharjis and such, however the present intensification is mainly the result of Imperialist policies. Any thoughts on this aspect?

 

#10: Rashid Mughal,

You say “scientists tell us, that if you and I can change our mind, we can change anything.” That sounds to me religious sermon more than a scientific truth. And in the next sentence you contradict it by saying that we are hard-wired. Then if the ability to change our mind is determined by our conditioning then how the change will occur for which you argue in the rest of your post?

 

#06: Jawaid V. Chaudhry,

yes, the hope maybe dashed due to the hard realities of politico-economic interests, however, we cannot discount that election of a first Afro-American president in itself have huge significance. Drivers for this change may be many, but let’s not forget that all these drivers indicate the need in the American society to make this symbolic change.

 Let’s say it is just that: a symbolic change. But we must not forget the importance of symbols. The symbols have represented the deepest currents running in the psyche of human race. This symbolic change, even if his presidency fails, will endure in the psyche of common people. My poem was inspired by this fundamental psychological truth. I know first hand and by others how so many have felt the significance of this change in terms of its impact on our new generations. And our new generations are our future.

 Poems are not always just an emotional outburst as many take them to be. Poems rise from the psychological depths when a soul is stirred by external or internal events.

 

 

 

#05: Tariq Bhatti,

Sir, the change is effecting a large population of coloured people in the West. As I implied in my response to J.Chaudhry, this change, even of symbolic nature has brought a new colour to the landscape of Western society. Let us not discount its impact on you and me. We may not have just realized it fully.

 

#04: Najeeb Kazmi,

You seem to be hoping (in your second paragraph) that this change actually may lead to long term basic and fundamental changes in US society. Is that not hoping too much? Personally, I think though it seems as socialism is taking place in US—Nationalization of big financial giants maybe construed a step in that direction plus Obama is considered a suspect socialist, at least in view of right wingers—however, he won’t make a fundamental change, unless a disaster struck such that there is no way left out of it without making structural changes.

 He seems to be very pragmatic savvy and will not antagonize the establishment. Look who he chose as Chief of Staff. No change from Clinton administration. Much to be seen. But you seem to have carried away by the emotional ambience of the moment.

Also, I do not think that after this symbolic change in US, other countries are not open to such change. That is the significance of this historical moment.

 

#03: MUZAFAR SHERAZ,

Germany is aligning more with Russia due to the basic contradiction which exists between European and American interest. Remember France’s initial hesitance to join the Bush coalition. Only Tony Blair was a poodle.

The hopes are created by Obama’s rhetoric (In Bill Clinton’s word ‘biggest fantasy’). Lot to be seen but yes, we can – hope. At the same time we cannot discount the importance of this historical moment.

 

#02: WARIS SHERE,

Thanks for your informative article. Your observation that Obama’s campaign was more of a social movement is apt and is appreciated. However, Obama’s rise comes with a big question mark. What really is possible for a President of United States to achieve within the current system?

By the way, there are two technical difficulties in your article if I may respectfully point out:

First, the end quote marks for King’s speech are confusing. It is hard to figure out where it stops, especially when you have inserted the Obama’s age thing in between.

Second, continuation of this sentence, “America's standing in the world has been damaged during the George Bush's presidency. He has inflicted massive direct harm to many parts of the world through his military actions.” to this one, “His leadership and vision for the future has fascinated people …” implies that “His” is referring to Bush. Reader has to do some mental gym to clarify the thought.

 

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